Thursday, December 25, 2003
Feedback on IBS - the Infallible Baccarat System
Thank you all who shared their thoughts on the system. I should
say, this is the system, that caught the most attention and interest from
all the others and the most praised within the first week of its
Now, I will answer some of the frequently asked questions on IBS:
Q: Hi Izak,
Very impressive results!!!! I have some questions though. I hope you can
A: Of course, thatís what Iím here for.
Q: I'm assuming that the average is gross and not net per shoe. Can
you please tell me what the net win per shoe after all commissions for both
the 1000 lifetime and 200 lifetime?
A: After commissions and uncompleted Zumma runs you gain 8361 units
in 600 shoes. For 1000 unit lifetime bankroll, your net average win is
8361/600 = 13.9 units per shoe. For 200 unit bankroll, your net average win
is: 4,086 units profit for 600 shoes or 6.81 units average per shoe. Please
note that the 200 unit is not for lifetime but for a shoe or session.
Q: Are you going to start playing this system at the casinos with the
1000 units or 200 lifetime units?
A: I have started with 200 units per session (buy-in). It makes me
lose some shoes, but doesnít stop me from profiting large amount of units
shoe after shoe. Once I have a substantial bankroll accumulated, I will
increase its size.
Q: It looks like your buy in will be 100 units using 1000 units
lifetime. How many units will I buy in for if I use the method with 200
A: 100 units or 200 units are not lifetime bankrolls, they are
bankrolls you will need for a shoe or for a session. 1000 units is
sufficient for a lifetime bankroll. Your buy-in amount should be 200 units.
100 units will not produce the same results.
Q: What was the biggest bet in terms of units using the 200 lifetime
A: I went up to 90. Again the 200 was for the shoe.
Q: So let me get this right, you only lost 16 shoes out of 600
playing the method adjusted for 200 lifetime units. Is that right ?
A: Yes, but 200 for the session. This also means that if I had lost 2
shoes back to back, I would have lost 400 units, but as mentioned by the
time I lost one shoe I was up by 700 units already.
Q: Do you truly think that this is the best system you have seen for
the game of bac, including all the Powerplays and your Kiss system?
Q: I am sure I'll have additional questions but think of them now. I
hope to hear from you very soon. God Bless and Happy Holidays!!!
A: Happy Holidays to you, too.
Q: Thank you for your interesting e-mail on the IBS system.
Will it work at on-line casinos?
A: It surely works on-line, too. Itís just that on-line you have
no beginning or end of a shoe. Continuous play makes IBS win even better as
every run comes to a winning resolution.
Q: Hello Izak!
No doubt you are buried in questions and responses re: IBS !!!!!
Here is one more when you find time:
If the system performs as it does, (in fact, I happen to believe you),
wouldn't it effectively change the very rules of baccarat - or perhaps there
are no countermeasures, in which case the game might be eliminated worldwide
if enough players start using it?
A: The system does perform the way itís announced. It may indeed
change some things in the casino. Maybe not the rules, but the table limits.
I have seen Baccarat table limits from $20 minimum to $20,000 maximum and
even more. For those limits, IBS is simply unbeatable. People should not use
the system with high exposure, but cautiously, otherwise, they tend to get
noticed. I keep a low profile, navigate a lot between shoes and never play
at the same table more than 1 hour, don't go to the casino every day and
surely don't brag about the system during play. Keep cool and pretend you're
Q: What is the biggest size bet needed and are you able to stay under
the table limits? Thanks
A: The table limits will differ depending on where you play. I
have seen $20 minimum up to $20,000 maximum limits, giving Baccarat a range
of 1 to 1000 units. This range can be seen on-line, too
I never went higher than 90. If a 144 unit or higher would be required, for
instance, one could also place two bets of 72 units, without affecting the
system's performance, but simply delaying the winning resolution.
Q: Izak, your system look amazing .
Does the results you provided in your e-mail is after the 5% commissions
A: Yes, the results are net - after commissions.
I've just had a look at my inbox. Your email is very interesting!
Unfortunately there is no way I could raise a 1000 unit bankroll, but if
your figures are accurate the system has HUGE potential.
Could I ask you to do the following: give us a profit/loss breakdown, in
units, for a 200 unit bank and then likewise for a 500 unit bank, in the
same way as you did it for the 1000 unit bank.
A: I wouldn't use it with less than 100 units per session/shoe,
because then your bankroll will not be adequate to complete the winning run.
With 100 unit bankroll, you will still win more than 70% of all Zumma shoes,
with a 200 unit bankroll more than 80% of all Zumma shoes, with 500 units,
more than 90%, and with 1000 unit bankroll more than 98% of all shoes.
I am basically a Craps player. With this work with Craps also? How do you
send or transmit the 1100+ pages?
A: Yes, it will work well for Craps even bets, Don't Pass vs Pass
I transmit the 1400 pages in WinZip format. It comes out to be .5MB per
Q: Would this work on 4 and 6 deck shoes okay. I was just
wondering, because I find, generally, that 4 deck shoes are rather more
choppy than 8 deck shoes. Not so many long streaks. 6 decks are somewhere in
A: For a change IBS does not depend on streaks and chops, such as
in the case of KISS, FBMP or
PowerPlay and also does not
depend on the number of decks. It will work for all cases and
events of Baccarat.
Q: Dear Izak,
Is the system easy too learn?
A: Oh yes, the system is fairly easy to learn. Itís enough to
practice it for a couple of hours. Its proof is quite long to demonstrate,
but itís there, too.
Q: Hi Izak,
Thanks for the quick email back. Appreciate it.
You mentioned to me on your response to my email that you net +13 and change
per shoe in the Zumma, while you state to another person on the board that
the figures given are already net. Which is correct?
A: The figures are net after commissions and they depend on the
amount of bankroll you have. For 1000 unit +13, for 200 units +6.81.
Q: Also, it would be great to eventually play at the $100 unit base
level as you mentioned. But is it realistic, especially when you have to buy
in for $20,000?
A: It may be realistic for some. They are high rollers and have this
kind of bankroll.
Q: Is there a way to disguise the buy in, perhaps buying in a little
at a time?
A: Yes, since you can buy more chips any time between decisions, this
is very possible, as long as the dealer doesnít mind being interrupted every
3-4 decisions. Iíd rather buy up front and have my stock available when I
Q: Another problem I have is that I play in AC or CT where the game
starts at quarters. That requires a lifetime bank of $25 x 1000= $25,000
Is there a way to remedy that?
A: You donít have to buy in your lifetime bankroll, just start with
200 units for the session and use your winnings later on.
Q: So essentially, with a 1000 units....that's divided 5 times ---so
200 units buy in, right?
Q: Does this system require extensive record-keeping at the table?
A: Yes, you need to keep track of your betting amounts, but
itís allowed to keep score at Baccarat tables, not in Blackjack though.
Q: Can IBS be used at "mini" baccarat? Some so called experts have
said there is some sort of statistical difference between the small table
and the big table versions of the game, such as the size of the shoes, how
the cards are dealt, etc., but personally, I think this matters very little,
if at all. I think it all comes down to the little over 1% house edge you
have to buck.
A: IBS handles both mini-Bac and normal Bac tables very efficiently.
Q: How do you account for beating the house percentage? My
guess it is in the betting
progression, and the entry and exit points, which I believe can negate the
house percentage. Am I
right, or close?
A: With IBS you will win 49.315% of all your bets and you need to win
only 26%. This gives the player a long run edge, unlike any other system I
know. Why you need to win only 26% is all documented in the system document.
Q: Will this system work on the internet, where you can make $1.00
bets using the $1,000 Bankroll.
A: Internet play makes it even more convenient for a few reasons:
1) The shoe has no beginning and no end, so every run will come to a winning
2) You have time to think and calculate your next bet amount, without being
pressured by the dealer's speed.
3) You can run a simulator in parallel to casino's software.
4) You can bet smaller units and change tables to higher ranges if
5) The algorithm cannot be guessed by the casino software. On the contrary,
even an initial long losing streak will not affect IBS' performance.
Q: Are the playing rules for IBS strictly mechanical as far as
where to place the bet and when to exit the shoe? Another way to put this
question maybe is would all players of this method get the same results?
A: IBS is very mechanical. If players use the same bankroll, they
will get the same results. The only variations you will get is if players
use a full IBS or split bet technique. The other variations will be if
players use a bankroll between 200 and 1000 units. With a 200 buy-in, some
shoes may result negatively, whereas the same shoes would come to a winning
resolution with a higher bankroll.
And now some comments and observations from forum members:
"The IBS baccarat write up looks great. I'm all for positive profits. If
it produces that kind of profits, maybe the whole board will finally get
"It may be a similar method of how I play of using a big bankroll to
counterbalance and overcome any excessive deviations by providing some
semblance of controlling randomness. I just know that you have to find a
method to stay within the bounds of excessive counter runs before bust out
occurs vs the bankroll you are playing."
"I really hope this is finally a documented system that can turn players in
to winners and give them full control. 1000 units really isn't a lot. As I
have been saying, even with no house edge playing these 'other' systems with
modest bankrolls of 100-200 units will come a day that knocks you out, and
that can happen back to back."
"I am sincere and really wish this enhances everyone's play. I will wait to
watch the pending results like everyone else to see how it goes over the
next week or two. My fingers are crossed and hats off to Izak for compiling
and offering such a potentially profitable system. I know it doesn't offer a
mathematical advantage, but you don't need one to make great profits as long
as you are profiting more frequently than losing."
"I'll continue with my own personal efforts, and really hope IBS finally
provides everyone the tools to take the casino's for a nice ride and control
"All the best wishes for Izak's IBS system, and sincerest success to all
that achieve those results... I love seeing profits rise!"
"My intention is mainly to make risk free profits and for people to be in
control of their own money, so if I can help you get extra risk free money
from bonus participation guarantees, I will be happy to still help. And you
can do as you like as I always stated...I don't have any hidden agenda,
other than us trying to make as much as money in a risk-free fashion
exploiting what I what I know. ...if IBS works for folks, there are
thousands of casinos and trillions to profit from :-)... I don't think any
casino would come up with counter measures to stop a Bac system, only if you
collude or cheat in some fashion...so here's hoping for the miracle that
people have been waiting for"
"Yesterday I was in the casino playing this new system. I played 6.5
shoes, it took me around 8 hours, sometimes shoes were taking 50 minutes
sometimes 90 minutes. I used these two rules as I was a little
hesitant using this first up. No more then 20 units on a single bet.
Do not lose more than 200 units on a shoe as I only had 700 units on me
there and then. I will post in more detail how I went in the next day
or two but is how day one turned out.
Played 6.5 shoes
Won 122 units
Average Win per shoe: 18.8 units.
Notes: Won every shoe. Biggest lot I was down was 56 units. I should have
bet 56 units straight up, but instead I bet 20,20,16 to get back to a +1
So far so good Izak."
"Well I am up over 400 units. However the place I play at has a
1-300 betting range and in one of today's session I had to make a 256 unit
bet. I won that bet but if it would have lost I would have been over the
limit and lost around 500 units"
I have experimented with the split bet and that seems the way to go. Does
using the split bet change the math formula at all ? I would think if used
correctly one could play within a 200 or 300 unit lifetime bankroll and be
fine. Your average net per shoe would be lower of course, as it might take a
shoe or two to clear in the bad situation, but I would think if the math is
the same it would eventually clear. What do you think?"
"In terms of the math, you are still going to win 49.513% of all bets. Until
the stage you do not need the split betting, as not in all shoes do you
require to bet high amounts and you need to set a certain value where you
would split your bets, you are still using IBS as is with the need of
winning only 26% of all your bet in order to come up ahead. This 26%
percentage, which represents the percentage of the bets you need to win in
order to complete your run will increase with the usage of the split bet and
it will start approaching the 49%. As long as this percentage is kept below
49%, the system will overcome long run. And this is very easily accomplished
with a partial usage of the split bet technique - and only when it's
"I will say it again so people will feel comfortable winning and losing.
IBS gives you a calculated high percentage probability of achieving modest
wins per shoe (or string of decisions) while risking up to 1000 units. How
does it do this? Easy. Using a large bankroll, progressing the bets that
overcome most shoes, to grind out one unit at a time, on average 7-13 units
Now if you limit and cap the bets, and try adding stop loses...all that is
dandy, but you will just be limiting the profits and losses.
By stopping at any particular point in time, and deciding to start over, is
almost a 50/50 bet... either you would have won the next bet to recoup, or
lost it. The only difference with having limits in gambling is
psychological. This is not like stock trading, that risk/reward changes
based on "good or bad news" of the markets whims. In casino gambling, the
percentages are "basically" fixed, so tweaking any system, only changes the
parameters you will operate under.
So with IBS, Izak has presented a system to take like a 99% chance to make
1% profits (percentages more or less approximate)...If you don't want that
kind of play of having to risk 1000 units for continuous 13 unit profit
until 1000 unit bust. Then you can cut it down, and take a 89% chance to win
10%. Or cut down back down to single bets... take 49.5% chance to win
50%...but once and you are done...take your 50% profit and run.
So at 1% win rate, it may take about 100 shoes to recoup... but if you get
lucky or have a decent way to track, you may play 1000's of shoes until you
best, or you can bust a few times before 100 shoes. It is gambling and the
percentages of risk/reward never change over the long haul.
My own finding and my favorite way of playing are similar to this type of
approach. Using a large bankroll, and making the chance of ruin so remote,
that I just keep playing and cashing out until I decide to stop. (Realizing
the day will come to take me down...if it takes me down once I'm ahead, then
that is good, if it takes me down before I get ahead, those are the breaks,
and if I get lucky, I may never encounter a bad run until I'm 1000%+ ahead.)
Bottom line, realize the risks in all gambling, decide how you like
proceeding in your money management preference, analyze the deviations of
most shoes, and determine if your approach overcomes most shoes, then just
go for it.
There is a mathematical formula for any string of data series to appear, and
the simple matter is a streak of 15, or 25, 40 decisions of any pattern
whether chop, or 3-5-2-1-4, or straight streak pattern is the exact same
likely hood as any pattern coming up 15 decisions. Now that's in theory,
what happens over the short term while anyone plays...its all random from
Keep playing and winning!"
"As many have astute gamblers have said on this board, and I will
reiterate it as it regards to IBS. Our advantage in gambling comes from the
fact that we have control of when and how much to bet. So using a good
progression doesn't give a true edge over casino, but it definitely gives an
inversely proportionate increase percentage in winning some 'units' at the
increased risk. As you risk more to make less, your winning percentage
increases. If we find the balance of big risk, with super high percentage of
constantly grinding out a unit profit, then it is all of our hopes that we
will never face, that 1 in X chance to bust. So whether it is 1 in 10,000 or
1 in 100,000, or 1 in 1million... the risk reward becomes relative to those
numbers. IBS seems to win about 8-13 units for the 1000 unit risk, so there
is about a 1% profit per shoe on average, so if you can win more than 100
shoes on average without a bust, THAT is awesome...you can't ask for
anything more. So keep up the excellent work, and make hay and profits while
and all you can."
"Overall Izak has mentioned his findings, along with others, about the
potential losses being -1000 units, and others having to make large bets, to
continue the run, so I think Izak this time has been forthcoming, and
whether over the long run profits continue to rise, it is apparent many
people are happy with IBS."
"I clearly believe there is no edge in any gambling system, but just
different techniques to balance risk/reward and strategize to mitigate loss
while accumulating profits. And I think Izak has done a worthwhile effort."
Thanking again everyone who participated in evaluating IBS.
IBS is still available for you for $100. With your purchase, you will also receive the great
Reward system priced at $78 as a free bonus.
It's an opportunity not to be missed.